2012年2月14日星期二

Why does Jesus fulfill all the prophecies of Lucifer? Why does no one else?

12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sw

Why does Jesus fulfill all the prophecies of Lucifer? Why does no one else?
He also raised the dead and healed the sick and preached about many things of peace and mildness and forgiveness.

Like he said, Satan cannot be against himself.



22?Then they brought him a demon-possessed man, blind and dumb; and he cured him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw. 23?Well, all the crowds were simply carried away and began to say: “May this not perhaps be the Son of David?” 24?At hearing this, the Pharisees said: “This fellow does not expel the demons except by means of Be·el′ze·bub, the ruler of the demons.” 25?Knowing their thoughts, he said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself comes to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26?In the same way, if Satan expels Satan, he has become divided against himself; how, then, will his kingdom stand? 27?Moreover, if I expel the demons by means of Be·el′ze·bub, by means of whom do YOUR sons expel them? This is why they will be judges of YOU. 28?But if it is by means of God’s spirit that I expel the demons, the kingdom of God has really overtaken YOU. 29?Or how can anyone invade the house of a strong man and seize his movable goods, unless first he binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30?He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.
Reply:You should also quote revelations where Jesus is referred to as the son of the morning. You can quote OT where it says about the antichrist coming to do away with the law and the NT where it says Jesus came to do away with the law.



There is much more than that.
Reply:You might want to quit reading the bible.
Reply:Ezekiel 28:

13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.



14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.



15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.



16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.



17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.



18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.



19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.



that doesn't define Jesus. does this prophecy about Satan fall into the category of "all"?



What about the rest of the passage that you deliberately cut out?



ord, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.



20Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.



Jesus DESTROYED Israel!?!?



right. you're stretching this one out big time. what about Genesis 3.15 that puts Jesus and Satan in direct opposition with one another? all of that to say that Satan was not a human being - this is evident from the writings of ezekiel, as he is a celestial being, one of the cherubims, and God's greatest creation.



When taken out of context and twisted, Isaiah could be understood to be speaking of Jesus, but when put in context with what other writers say about Satan, it is plain that Isaiah is not talking about Christ.


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